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		<title>By: Bertrand Dunogier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertrand Dunogier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feel free to answer some of them here as a test run. Use a fictional company name like zE Publish :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel free to answer some of them here as a test run. Use a fictional company name like zE Publish <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bertrand Dunogier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertrand Dunogier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting reading. Makes me wonder about a few answers my company would come up with... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting reading. Makes me wonder about a few answers my company would come up with&#8230; <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Walid Elgamal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walid Elgamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a great list … personally I have been using some of them and I watched lots of vendor’s dancing in writing and in person answering them.

What about one more question on the disclosure of the third party and OEM components in their system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a great list … personally I have been using some of them and I watched lots of vendor’s dancing in writing and in person answering them.</p>
<p>What about one more question on the disclosure of the third party and OEM components in their system?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Marks</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2009/08/15/how-keep-to-a-cms-vendor-on-their-toes/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main reason I didn&#039;t include the upgrade question is because it is something I see asked a lot anyway. The vendors have canned answers for it. But getting the roadmap is always a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main reason I didn&#8217;t include the upgrade question is because it is something I see asked a lot anyway. The vendors have canned answers for it. But getting the roadmap is always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I asked Jon, just a second ago, I missed Janus&#039; comment about &quot;ask about the upgrade to the next planned version; how difficult will it be? when?&quot;. 
This whole upgrade cacophony scares me. It&#039;s not only the bought software (CMS in this case) that can be an issue. But the underlying OS (W2K -&gt; W7?!), the language (PHP3 -&gt; PHP5!), the plug-ins and 3rd party software. Some of that unsupported, &quot;yanked&quot; from somewhere for free (In my head is playing episode of Beavis and Butt-Head where Tom Anderson is walking around in a HUUGE DIY shop after hours, echoingly, asking &#039;anyone here..?&#039;).
Anyway back on topic, at this point, it might be good to ask for a technological road map that includes a) OS, b) Language/Dev platform, c) any third party software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I asked Jon, just a second ago, I missed Janus&#8217; comment about &#8220;ask about the upgrade to the next planned version; how difficult will it be? when?&#8221;.<br />
This whole upgrade cacophony scares me. It&#8217;s not only the bought software (CMS in this case) that can be an issue. But the underlying OS (W2K -&gt; W7?!), the language (PHP3 -&gt; PHP5!), the plug-ins and 3rd party software. Some of that unsupported, &#8220;yanked&#8221; from somewhere for free (In my head is playing episode of Beavis and Butt-Head where Tom Anderson is walking around in a HUUGE DIY shop after hours, echoingly, asking &#8216;anyone here..?&#8217;).<br />
Anyway back on topic, at this point, it might be good to ask for a technological road map that includes a) OS, b) Language/Dev platform, c) any third party software.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriaan Bloem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriaan Bloem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you the answer to question #1 since I&#039;ve heard it so many times. First off, you&#039;ll never hear a truthful answer. (I&#039;ve heard an honest answer maybe two or three times. And usually, that was after a couple of beers.) Secondly, they&#039;ll have won deals against the perceived #1 and #2 in the market, which they&#039;re up against &quot;all of the time.&quot; I.e., in search, for years, everybody was telling me they won a deal when they were on a shortlist with Autonomy, Verity, and/or Fast...

#9 isn&#039;t really fair. Sure, vendors are sloppy with their own sites (why tie up professional services in work that doesn&#039;t generate revenue directly?). It&#039;s a bit like doctors with a secret smoking habit. They should know better but hey, they&#039;re only human :P

And the one I would add to the list: my favorite question while sitting through vendor demos (before I knew them as well as I do now). With a smoke-and-mirrors demo of all the features, always ask &quot;Cool. But how do we turn it off?&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you the answer to question #1 since I&#8217;ve heard it so many times. First off, you&#8217;ll never hear a truthful answer. (I&#8217;ve heard an honest answer maybe two or three times. And usually, that was after a couple of beers.) Secondly, they&#8217;ll have won deals against the perceived #1 and #2 in the market, which they&#8217;re up against &#8220;all of the time.&#8221; I.e., in search, for years, everybody was telling me they won a deal when they were on a shortlist with Autonomy, Verity, and/or Fast&#8230;</p>
<p>#9 isn&#8217;t really fair. Sure, vendors are sloppy with their own sites (why tie up professional services in work that doesn&#8217;t generate revenue directly?). It&#8217;s a bit like doctors with a secret smoking habit. They should know better but hey, they&#8217;re only human <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And the one I would add to the list: my favorite question while sitting through vendor demos (before I knew them as well as I do now). With a smoke-and-mirrors demo of all the features, always ask &#8220;Cool. But how do we turn it off?&#8221; <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: George Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. This is a topic we are passionate about and advocate for anything can cut through the scripted demo and get to real issues of: Is the CMS capable of addressing the organizations issues, how will it do it and once it is done will the end users actually be able to use it?

A couple of posts we did that compliment what you wrote here:
http://www.cmsmyth.com/blogs/cms_myth/archive/2009/04/14/get-your-cms-vendor-off-the-script.aspx

http://www.cmsmyth.com/blogs/cms_myth/archive/2009/05/30/does-your-cms-fit.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. This is a topic we are passionate about and advocate for anything can cut through the scripted demo and get to real issues of: Is the CMS capable of addressing the organizations issues, how will it do it and once it is done will the end users actually be able to use it?</p>
<p>A couple of posts we did that compliment what you wrote here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cmsmyth.com/blogs/cms_myth/archive/2009/04/14/get-your-cms-vendor-off-the-script.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmsmyth.com/blogs/cms_myth/archive/2009/04/14/get-your-cms-vendor-off-the-script.aspx</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cmsmyth.com/blogs/cms_myth/archive/2009/05/30/does-your-cms-fit.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmsmyth.com/blogs/cms_myth/archive/2009/05/30/does-your-cms-fit.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like a lot of these. Given that a new CMS is a 3-5 year commitment, I&#039;m surprised that there aren&#039;t more questions about vendor intangibles in the RFPs I deal with, particularly around vendor financials... i.e. are they going to be around in 3+ years, or are they likely to get swallowed up in a recession-driven consolidation of the CMS market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like a lot of these. Given that a new CMS is a 3-5 year commitment, I&#8217;m surprised that there aren&#8217;t more questions about vendor intangibles in the RFPs I deal with, particularly around vendor financials&#8230; i.e. are they going to be around in 3+ years, or are they likely to get swallowed up in a recession-driven consolidation of the CMS market?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a useful list, particularly inasmuch as it focuses more on working with the vendor (&quot;VX?&quot;) than with the tool.  If you ask in the demo, though, you might not have the right people in the room to answer fully, but even partial answers will be revealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a useful list, particularly inasmuch as it focuses more on working with the vendor (&#8220;VX?&#8221;) than with the tool.  If you ask in the demo, though, you might not have the right people in the room to answer fully, but even partial answers will be revealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Marks</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2009/08/15/how-keep-to-a-cms-vendor-on-their-toes/#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole timing question warrants a separate discussion. I think 60 minutes might be enough if it is a pure presenation without too many questions and interactions. However, I far prefer an interactive session which is impossible in 60 minutes. Nothing worse than being asked lots of questions and then being told to stop when the 60 minute buzzer goes off.

I think I like Piero&#039;s suggestion.

When we&#039;re interviewing a candidate for a senior job, it&#039;s not unusual to have 3 or 4 interviews of 60 minutes each. And it&#039;s a whole lot easier to replace a badly hiring candidate than a badly chosen CMS, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole timing question warrants a separate discussion. I think 60 minutes might be enough if it is a pure presenation without too many questions and interactions. However, I far prefer an interactive session which is impossible in 60 minutes. Nothing worse than being asked lots of questions and then being told to stop when the 60 minute buzzer goes off.</p>
<p>I think I like Piero&#8217;s suggestion.</p>
<p>When we&#8217;re interviewing a candidate for a senior job, it&#8217;s not unusual to have 3 or 4 interviews of 60 minutes each. And it&#8217;s a whole lot easier to replace a badly hiring candidate than a badly chosen CMS, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2009/08/15/how-keep-to-a-cms-vendor-on-their-toes/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, we have a demo from a &#039;big&#039; vendor next week I&#039;m considering posing questions #1, 2, 7, 8 and 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, we have a demo from a &#8216;big&#8217; vendor next week I&#8217;m considering posing questions #1, 2, 7, 8 and 9.</p>
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		<title>By: Piero Tintori</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2009/08/15/how-keep-to-a-cms-vendor-on-their-toes/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>Piero Tintori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my experience, I believe that many buyers don&#039;t give enough time. An hours goes very quickly and it&#039;s very difficult for a buyer, who isn&#039;t familiar with CMS, to differentiate products in that time frame. At most you&#039;ll be able to disqualify the poorest of solutions.

Secondly, it really worries me when I see a long agenda and a short amount of time allocated to conduct it.  It raises flags with me that the buyer isn&#039;t serious about the project to give it necessary investment of their time or they see the whole project as a buying a commodity. It can also indicate that they&#039;ve already chosen a solution and is just going through the motions. 

My recommendation to buyers is allow 1 hour of a end user focused demo / scenarios and a second hour for a more technical discussion (how easy is it to setup, how flexible are the templates, the architecture and other techie questions)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my experience, I believe that many buyers don&#8217;t give enough time. An hours goes very quickly and it&#8217;s very difficult for a buyer, who isn&#8217;t familiar with CMS, to differentiate products in that time frame. At most you&#8217;ll be able to disqualify the poorest of solutions.</p>
<p>Secondly, it really worries me when I see a long agenda and a short amount of time allocated to conduct it.  It raises flags with me that the buyer isn&#8217;t serious about the project to give it necessary investment of their time or they see the whole project as a buying a commodity. It can also indicate that they&#8217;ve already chosen a solution and is just going through the motions. </p>
<p>My recommendation to buyers is allow 1 hour of a end user focused demo / scenarios and a second hour for a more technical discussion (how easy is it to setup, how flexible are the templates, the architecture and other techie questions)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Wentworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Wentworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janus,I wish more buyers would adhere to the 60 minute rule.  Unfortunately I&#039;ve seen the trend go in the other direction.  I think 60 minutes is more than enough time to present and demo in most situations.  Basic CMS functions are commoditized, vendors should stick to presenting and demonstrating what makes them different and special.

Back to the original point.  As a vendor, none of these questions listed here would give me much heartburn (but then again, I&#039;ve been doing this for 10 years...)  I might prefer not to answer some of the questions, but they are all reasonable.  Maybe the lesson learned is to treat these sorts of questions as a test for the vendor.  Any vendor should be able to respond to odd questions.  If they won&#039;t (or can&#039;t) it says a lot about the vendor and/or the vendor&#039;s sales team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janus,I wish more buyers would adhere to the 60 minute rule.  Unfortunately I&#8217;ve seen the trend go in the other direction.  I think 60 minutes is more than enough time to present and demo in most situations.  Basic CMS functions are commoditized, vendors should stick to presenting and demonstrating what makes them different and special.</p>
<p>Back to the original point.  As a vendor, none of these questions listed here would give me much heartburn (but then again, I&#8217;ve been doing this for 10 years&#8230;)  I might prefer not to answer some of the questions, but they are all reasonable.  Maybe the lesson learned is to treat these sorts of questions as a test for the vendor.  Any vendor should be able to respond to odd questions.  If they won&#8217;t (or can&#8217;t) it says a lot about the vendor and/or the vendor&#8217;s sales team.</p>
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		<title>By: Janus Boye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janus Boye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doing a CMS selection is quite different than interviewing a candidate for a job. I do accept the point that the intangibles are important and often underestimated.

If the buyer has involved some external help, like myself, I would not advice them to ask the questions. The customer should expect the external expert to know the answer to a few of them (e.g. 2, 3, 5, 6) and for the rest, I can&#039;t see how their answers changes much.

Here some easy ways of keeping a vendor on their toes:
- if you want to show us slides, you have to send the PPT at least 2 days in advance
- follow the agenda
- show us a demo
- send us a list of who&#039;s coming to the meeting, including names and title and role in project
- ask about the upgrade to the next planned version; how difficult will it be? when?
- ask about what they see as the most significant challenges in your project
- give them no more than 60 minutes

Keep up the great posts. 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doing a CMS selection is quite different than interviewing a candidate for a job. I do accept the point that the intangibles are important and often underestimated.</p>
<p>If the buyer has involved some external help, like myself, I would not advice them to ask the questions. The customer should expect the external expert to know the answer to a few of them (e.g. 2, 3, 5, 6) and for the rest, I can&#8217;t see how their answers changes much.</p>
<p>Here some easy ways of keeping a vendor on their toes:<br />
- if you want to show us slides, you have to send the PPT at least 2 days in advance<br />
- follow the agenda<br />
- show us a demo<br />
- send us a list of who&#8217;s coming to the meeting, including names and title and role in project<br />
- ask about the upgrade to the next planned version; how difficult will it be? when?<br />
- ask about what they see as the most significant challenges in your project<br />
- give them no more than 60 minutes</p>
<p>Keep up the great posts. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nyberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nyberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If those questions confuse the buyer, the buyer probably shouldn&#039;t be in a CMS vendor meeting by themselves! :) I often participate as an adviser in CMS selection processes simply to &lt;i&gt;avoid&lt;/i&gt; the buyer becoming confused - the questions still need to be raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those questions confuse the buyer, the buyer probably shouldn&#8217;t be in a CMS vendor meeting by themselves! <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I often participate as an adviser in CMS selection processes simply to <i>avoid</i> the buyer becoming confused &#8211; the questions still need to be raised.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely these buyers need to have someone informed (like yourself) assisting them with the vendor selection process? If everyone doing the selection truly is uninformed, they&#039;re going to get given the run around and will struggle to understand all of the very important intangibles. Getting a vendor to have a generic chat so you can start to understand the chemistry is surely useful. I do accept your point that some buyers might get confused if they don&#039;t really understand why we&#039;re asking the questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely these buyers need to have someone informed (like yourself) assisting them with the vendor selection process? If everyone doing the selection truly is uninformed, they&#8217;re going to get given the run around and will struggle to understand all of the very important intangibles. Getting a vendor to have a generic chat so you can start to understand the chemistry is surely useful. I do accept your point that some buyers might get confused if they don&#8217;t really understand why we&#8217;re asking the questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Janus Boye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janus Boye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting questions, but I would never advice buyers to ask them, except perhaps 3 and 5. I would rephrase #3 to something like

&lt;b&gt;#3: How active is your developer community?&lt;/b&gt;
- Counting developers is like counting references - what matters is: Is it likely that somebody answers my questions. Again: Quality vs. quantity. 

and for #5, I would ask for a listing of some recommended freelancers/contractors/implementation partners. 

The other questions are interesting mostly for industry insiders, including those working at digital agencies. For buyers, I would call them a detour for CMS selection and probably a good source of confusion, at least for the uninformed buyers, some of which I am sure read this blog as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting questions, but I would never advice buyers to ask them, except perhaps 3 and 5. I would rephrase #3 to something like</p>
<p><b>#3: How active is your developer community?</b><br />
- Counting developers is like counting references &#8211; what matters is: Is it likely that somebody answers my questions. Again: Quality vs. quantity. </p>
<p>and for #5, I would ask for a listing of some recommended freelancers/contractors/implementation partners. </p>
<p>The other questions are interesting mostly for industry insiders, including those working at digital agencies. For buyers, I would call them a detour for CMS selection and probably a good source of confusion, at least for the uninformed buyers, some of which I am sure read this blog as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nyberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nyberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Jon! As you said, vendor and implementor should probably seldom (never?) be the same people, for a number of reasons. Successful implementors usually haven&#039;t chosen CMS products for their offerings based on chance - they want something that &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; like as well. So, the partner layer between vendors and end-customers is actually a good first selection process. A bit of Darwinism, perhaps? :)

However, to complement your list, I have a question that I usually include whenever I have an advisory role in CMS selection projects: &lt;cite&gt;What kind of companies or websites is [product name] not primarily designed for?&lt;/cite&gt;

Answers vary on this one, but I&#039;ve found that this question often isn&#039;t perceived as being &quot;hostile&quot; in any way, and you can learn a whole lot from the answer. Not only about the product, but about the vendor as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jon! As you said, vendor and implementor should probably seldom (never?) be the same people, for a number of reasons. Successful implementors usually haven&#8217;t chosen CMS products for their offerings based on chance &#8211; they want something that <i>they</i> like as well. So, the partner layer between vendors and end-customers is actually a good first selection process. A bit of Darwinism, perhaps? <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, to complement your list, I have a question that I usually include whenever I have an advisory role in CMS selection projects: <cite>What kind of companies or websites is [product name] not primarily designed for?</cite></p>
<p>Answers vary on this one, but I&#8217;ve found that this question often isn&#8217;t perceived as being &#8220;hostile&#8221; in any way, and you can learn a whole lot from the answer. Not only about the product, but about the vendor as well.</p>
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		<title>By: apoorv</title>
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		<dc:creator>apoorv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions. I&#039;d add another one though: 

Tell us about 2 or 3 projects where you were not successful and the reasons for those. I am quite sure they will blame requirements or implementation team but if they are honest, it&#039;ll help to know the kind of things they can&#039;t do that well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions. I&#8217;d add another one though: </p>
<p>Tell us about 2 or 3 projects where you were not successful and the reasons for those. I am quite sure they will blame requirements or implementation team but if they are honest, it&#8217;ll help to know the kind of things they can&#8217;t do that well.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can assure you that whenever a prospect has these &quot;odd&quot; questions (and it does happen), I will always answer them truthfully. 

If, a vendor, doesn&#039;t do this, it will come back as a boomerang and for sure they don&#039;t want these kind of negative chatter going around. Especially with the power of social media these days!

I personally welcome any kind of questions and I would urge all who is thinking about buying a CMS, to really assess what is important for the organization and what will be important in a couple of years(this is a difficult one). Further more, organizations who are in a CMS selection, need to be aware that this needs to be done by someone who knows what a CMS is and what the capabilities of a CMS are, this way the chance of misinterpretations are minimal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can assure you that whenever a prospect has these &#8220;odd&#8221; questions (and it does happen), I will always answer them truthfully. </p>
<p>If, a vendor, doesn&#8217;t do this, it will come back as a boomerang and for sure they don&#8217;t want these kind of negative chatter going around. Especially with the power of social media these days!</p>
<p>I personally welcome any kind of questions and I would urge all who is thinking about buying a CMS, to really assess what is important for the organization and what will be important in a couple of years(this is a difficult one). Further more, organizations who are in a CMS selection, need to be aware that this needs to be done by someone who knows what a CMS is and what the capabilities of a CMS are, this way the chance of misinterpretations are minimal.</p>
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