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	<description>Just a nerd trying to save the publishing industry. Again.</description>
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		<title>By: Roseanne Castillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roseanne Castillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does the CMS program create navigational elements? Can users add and delete pages easily and do the menus automatically adjust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the CMS program create navigational elements? Can users add and delete pages easily and do the menus automatically adjust?</p>
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		<title>By: dirk shaw</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2010/07/28/a-fine-day-for-adobe/#comment-17059</link>
		<dc:creator>dirk shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jon.. I always wondered when Adobe would take this plunge.. In my past life we might have hoped it were us... As everyone has stated it is a very different type of sales/consulting model for an enterprise company. Perhaps some of the lesson with OMNTR will help.

Dirk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jon.. I always wondered when Adobe would take this plunge.. In my past life we might have hoped it were us&#8230; As everyone has stated it is a very different type of sales/consulting model for an enterprise company. Perhaps some of the lesson with OMNTR will help.</p>
<p>Dirk</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Herring</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2010/07/28/a-fine-day-for-adobe/#comment-16771</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Herring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice commentary, Jon. I agree that it is long overdue for Adobe to get back into the CMS game. Remember when Adobe tried taking on Quark and QPS to build a better print management system? And they just gave up because it was too hard, too costly and couldn&#039;t see the long road? I can&#039;t help but think that had they succeeded in creating a CMS for print all those years ago, and continued to invest in that platform using open standards, they might well have been AHEAD of Apple in having a system publishers could use to easily create magazines and books for tablet computers. Now, they&#039;re playing catch-up via acquisition...

Hope to see you at a future &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostPopular=&amp;gid=2997630&quot; title=&quot;#CMSGeekUpNYC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice commentary, Jon. I agree that it is long overdue for Adobe to get back into the CMS game. Remember when Adobe tried taking on Quark and QPS to build a better print management system? And they just gave up because it was too hard, too costly and couldn&#8217;t see the long road? I can&#8217;t help but think that had they succeeded in creating a CMS for print all those years ago, and continued to invest in that platform using open standards, they might well have been AHEAD of Apple in having a system publishers could use to easily create magazines and books for tablet computers. Now, they&#8217;re playing catch-up via acquisition&#8230;</p>
<p>Hope to see you at a future <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostPopular=&amp;gid=2997630" title="#CMSGeekUpNYC" rel="nofollow">.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Piero Tintori</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2010/07/28/a-fine-day-for-adobe/#comment-16769</link>
		<dc:creator>Piero Tintori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very exciting story for Java platform side of the CMS industry and as a mid-tier vendor we&#039;ve been following it closely. I&#039;ve a few comments/topics that perhaps some analysts / bloggers might take up else where but I just thought I&#039;d dump my thoughts:

1) Adobe don&#039;t have a successful track record with enterprise solutions with a long sales cycle and consultative implementation process (with respect to WCM) often taking many months or years, so I&#039;m not sure how Adobe are going to scale the Day business without making major changes.

2) The valuation figures are very interesting, I haven&#039;t had time to run the financial multiples but from what I can see Adobe have paid about 40% more than other acquisitions over the past 5 years. I do think Day deserve a premium but I think it is also indication that CMS/WCM/DAM are becoming a core requirement as part of larger firms plans.

3) What does this mean for Cold Fusion? In particular Cold Fusion based content management systems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very exciting story for Java platform side of the CMS industry and as a mid-tier vendor we&#8217;ve been following it closely. I&#8217;ve a few comments/topics that perhaps some analysts / bloggers might take up else where but I just thought I&#8217;d dump my thoughts:</p>
<p>1) Adobe don&#8217;t have a successful track record with enterprise solutions with a long sales cycle and consultative implementation process (with respect to WCM) often taking many months or years, so I&#8217;m not sure how Adobe are going to scale the Day business without making major changes.</p>
<p>2) The valuation figures are very interesting, I haven&#8217;t had time to run the financial multiples but from what I can see Adobe have paid about 40% more than other acquisitions over the past 5 years. I do think Day deserve a premium but I think it is also indication that CMS/WCM/DAM are becoming a core requirement as part of larger firms plans.</p>
<p>3) What does this mean for Cold Fusion? In particular Cold Fusion based content management systems?</p>
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		<title>By: bex</title>
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		<dc:creator>bex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it...

A quarter of a billion dollars can buy a lot of things. Like perhaps a dev team that can create a decent HTML5 IDE?

This appears to me to be a double-down on the losing prospect of long-term viability of Flash/Flex... probably because Adobe willfully refuses to see the road ahead.

This is a modestly intelligent tactical move, when Adobe really *REALLY* needs to think more strategically. I see no net increase in long term shareholder value here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it&#8230;</p>
<p>A quarter of a billion dollars can buy a lot of things. Like perhaps a dev team that can create a decent HTML5 IDE?</p>
<p>This appears to me to be a double-down on the losing prospect of long-term viability of Flash/Flex&#8230; probably because Adobe willfully refuses to see the road ahead.</p>
<p>This is a modestly intelligent tactical move, when Adobe really *REALLY* needs to think more strategically. I see no net increase in long term shareholder value here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Marks</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2010/07/28/a-fine-day-for-adobe/#comment-16686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope :-) This blog is, always has been and always will be purely personal. I don&#039;t talk about my projects, even the stuff I&#039;m allowed to talk about. Cool kids don&#039;t kiss and tell. Was the same at my previous job at LBi. Search my archives - you&#039;ll never find a client or project referred to. I&#039;ve used a lot of CMS systems, Day included, but I need to keep things generic.  

That said, News Intl/News Corp is a big place. Day is one of at least 6 major CMS vendors used across the various business units. And that is just the ones I know about ...

P.S. Before you ask - yes, News Corp use Adobe products too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  This blog is, always has been and always will be purely personal. I don&#8217;t talk about my projects, even the stuff I&#8217;m allowed to talk about. Cool kids don&#8217;t kiss and tell. Was the same at my previous job at LBi. Search my archives &#8211; you&#8217;ll never find a client or project referred to. I&#8217;ve used a lot of CMS systems, Day included, but I need to keep things generic.  </p>
<p>That said, News Intl/News Corp is a big place. Day is one of at least 6 major CMS vendors used across the various business units. And that is just the ones I know about &#8230;</p>
<p>P.S. Before you ask &#8211; yes, News Corp use Adobe products too.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2010/07/28/a-fine-day-for-adobe/#comment-16685</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is big news of course for Magnolia CMS and the whole JCR-space. I agree with you that this is one merger that makes sense for Adobe, and sense for Day shareholders that for about a decade where hoping to get something out of their investment (check this chart and you see what I mean: http://tinyurl.com/34hcz7l

But what will be the impact on the rest of us? Read my thoughts. Summit: bad for Day customers. Good for Magnolia. Alfresco? Who is Alfresco?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.betterfasterbigger.com/2010/07/day-to-be-acquired-by-adobe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adobe buys Day. Impact on Magnolia and JCR?&lt;/a&gt;

- Boris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is big news of course for Magnolia CMS and the whole JCR-space. I agree with you that this is one merger that makes sense for Adobe, and sense for Day shareholders that for about a decade where hoping to get something out of their investment (check this chart and you see what I mean: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/34hcz7l" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/34hcz7l</a></p>
<p>But what will be the impact on the rest of us? Read my thoughts. Summit: bad for Day customers. Good for Magnolia. Alfresco? Who is Alfresco?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.betterfasterbigger.com/2010/07/day-to-be-acquired-by-adobe.html" rel="nofollow">Adobe buys Day. Impact on Magnolia and JCR?</a></p>
<p>- Boris</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, is there any disclosure you would like to make regarding the fact that News Intl is a Day customer (as of their recent report) and you are a lead architect at News Corp?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, is there any disclosure you would like to make regarding the fact that News Intl is a Day customer (as of their recent report) and you are a lead architect at News Corp?</p>
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		<title>By: George Knox</title>
		<link>http://jonontech.com/2010/07/28/a-fine-day-for-adobe/#comment-16681</link>
		<dc:creator>George Knox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon

Interestingly, we have seen a big upsurge in migrations into Day this year across North America and Europe. Especially in the life Sciences and Commercial sectors. I agree with you that i think the momentum will increase in moving to Day as the acquisition by Adobe will move Day from a niche player into a mainstream Enterprise  solution. There are still hundreds of Interwoven and Vignette customers out there who have been looking for a strong Java CMS platform with the right brand name behind it. My feeling is that we could start to see many of those IWV and Vign clients make a move to Day as they perceived a IBM solution was maybe they only alternative.

Exciting times ahead and we will see a real push around the whole Web Experience management that Day was leading. 

PS The  rescue plan   you refer to from Fatwire never rescued anyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon</p>
<p>Interestingly, we have seen a big upsurge in migrations into Day this year across North America and Europe. Especially in the life Sciences and Commercial sectors. I agree with you that i think the momentum will increase in moving to Day as the acquisition by Adobe will move Day from a niche player into a mainstream Enterprise  solution. There are still hundreds of Interwoven and Vignette customers out there who have been looking for a strong Java CMS platform with the right brand name behind it. My feeling is that we could start to see many of those IWV and Vign clients make a move to Day as they perceived a IBM solution was maybe they only alternative.</p>
<p>Exciting times ahead and we will see a real push around the whole Web Experience management that Day was leading. </p>
<p>PS The  rescue plan   you refer to from Fatwire never rescued anyone</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Turns out the iPhone screen and suntan lotion work well together. 

However, I don&#039;t think Vamosa should rush out a Day Rescue Program quite yet. Day customers should be happy about this - noone will be leaving it in a hurry. If anything, plan for more migrations into Day. Time you polish your JCR connectors ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Turns out the iPhone screen and suntan lotion work well together. </p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think Vamosa should rush out a Day Rescue Program quite yet. Day customers should be happy about this &#8211; noone will be leaving it in a hurry. If anything, plan for more migrations into Day. Time you polish your JCR connectors &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceri Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceri Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos for the commitment even from the beach! 

As tech categories consolidate in the inevitable cycle of technology maturity, pause just a moment to think of the poor customers, who, to add to their day-to-day challenges of managing web operations, will now be wondering if they will soon need to think about migrating content away from Day and into yet another ECMS platform. Still, it keeps the tech word turning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos for the commitment even from the beach! </p>
<p>As tech categories consolidate in the inevitable cycle of technology maturity, pause just a moment to think of the poor customers, who, to add to their day-to-day challenges of managing web operations, will now be wondering if they will soon need to think about migrating content away from Day and into yet another ECMS platform. Still, it keeps the tech word turning&#8230;</p>
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