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		<title>Drifting Yellow Dots &#8211; Gartner CMS MQ 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lordy, has it been a year already? Sure has. The 2010 Gartner Magic Quadrant for WCM is out. You can get the report here courtesy of our friends at SiteCore. As usual it is worth a read, but here are the juicy bits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>I began to think what a deed I&#8217;d done.<br />
I grabbed my hat and I began to run.<br />
I made a god run but I ran too slow;<br />
They overtook me down in Jericho<br />
- IN SEARCH OF LITTLE SADIE</p></blockquote>
<p>Lordy, has it been a year already? Sure has. The 2010 Gartner Magic Quadrant for WCM is out. You can <a href="http://www.sitecore.net/Products/Resources/whitepapers/Gartner-Magic-Quadrant.aspx">get the report here</a> courtesy of our friends at SiteCore. As usual it is worth a read, but here is the juicy bit:</p>
<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/wcmmq20101.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1755" title="wcmmq2010" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/wcmmq20101-279x300.png" alt="" width="279" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve marked the guys that have improved a reasonable amount with a green line, indicating  where they&#8217;ve moved to since 2009. No-one has really slipped, although a few have vanished. EMC have given up on WCM and are partnering with Fatwire instead. <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/05/06/omg-open-text-buy-grandpa-vignette/">Vignette</a> and Nstein are also now part of the Open Text dot. Expect to see <a href="http://jonontech.com/2010/07/28/a-fine-day-for-adobe/">Day replaced by Adobe</a> on here in 2011.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve stuck with the same Big Three (Oracle, Automony/Interwoven and Open Text) in the lead as last time. Two other Big Guys &#8211; Microsoft and IBM &#8211; are inching closer to the Leader Quadrant. It does seem that to be near the top of the &#8220;ability to execute&#8221; axis, you need to be a massive company and have technology that is at least ten years old. I <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/08/10/what-has-the-ministry-of-magic-quadrants-got-against-me/">ranted about this last year</a>, and the same thoughts apply. I should point out that this dimension is defined as &#8220;<em>how well a vendor sells and supports its WCM products and services</em>&#8220;, not on the success of implementations or happiness of customers. If you want to get the products with the most marketing dollars behind them, this is the axis for you.</p>
<p>The Open Text logic still confounds me. Here is how I see it. In 2009, Open Text was one of the three leaders, based on what I can only assume was The Product Formerly Known As RedDot. Vignette and Nstein were lingering in the shitty quadrant (VIGN on the border, admittedly). So my only conclusion is that RedDot was the favoured product in the eyes of Gartner. However, my spider senses (and OTEX staff layoffs) tell me RedDot is on its way out and the Vignette WCM product is the Chosen One. So I&#8217;d have expected the Gartner folk to move OTEX further into the danger zone, but the uncertainly and product direction have actually given them a boost.</p>
<p>The tussle between the younger upstarts is as close as ever. The Java vendors (FatWire and Day) have gained slightly on the .NET ones (SiteCore, Ektron). The Java/.NET hybrid, SDL, keeps its nose in front. I think we&#8217;ll see bigger gaps in 2011.</p>
<p>Last year, I noted that poor EPiServer had got a bit of a raw deal. That&#8217;s been fixed. I&#8217;ve always felt they should be sitting right next to SiteCore on this thing. And CoreMedia also got a big bonus. Alterian got a little boost, but they&#8217;re still in the quadrant of despair.</p>
<p>There are two new vendors on there, Atex and Dynamicweb. I&#8217;ve heard of the latter but never seen them. And only heard of Atex when they aquired Polopoly as few years ago. Never seen their product either, so not comments here.</p>
<p>Still no Open Source vendors on here, for the same revenue related reasons as last time. I&#8217;m not going over all that again.</p>
<p>Most of these little yellow dots haven&#8217;t drifted very far in a year &#8211; the report is pretty similar despite the M&amp;A activity that has kept us bloggers busy. So pretty much a repeat of last year. And, like last year, here is hoping Gartner&#8217;s lawyers don&#8217;t serve me any takedown notices.</p>
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		<title>When CMS Genes Won&#8217;t Splice</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>Oh God said to Abraham, &#8220;Kill me a son&#8221;<br />
Abe says, &#8220;Man, you must be puttin&#8217; me on&#8221;<br />
God say, &#8220;No.&#8221; Abe say, &#8220;What?&#8221;<br />
God say, &#8220;You can do what you want Abe, but<br />
The next time you see me comin&#8217; you better run&#8221;<br />
Well Abe says, &#8220;Where do you want this killin&#8217; done?&#8221;<br />
God says, &#8220;Out on Highway 61.&#8221;<br />
- HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED</p></blockquote>
<p>People are talking about Open Text&#8217;s CMS roadmap again. There were some interesting statements made in the <a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/157446-open-text-corporation-f4q09-qtr-end-06-30-2009-earnings-call-transcript">latest Earnings Call</a>, the most notable of which is quoted below:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Paul Steep &#8211; Scotia Capital</strong></p>
<p>What sort of the timing for the integrated platform, and I guess, would the plan be to migrate that Vignette product over to RedDot that [number] there. I think they are on a different architectures as I would recall?</p>
<p><strong>John Shackleton</strong></p>
<p>Actually, it probably be the other way, Paul, where we would migrate the RedDot to the Vignette platform. We will be showing a detailed road map at the conference in October, so I think you&#8217;ll get a good clear. But it looks pretty interesting, the way that things are shaping up.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ho hum. Another migration in a box. I really liked the post from <a href="http://twitter.com/markusgiesen">Markus Giesen</a> on the <a href="http://www.reddotcmsblog.com/is-the-reddot-cms-dead-no-its-not-but-whats-next-open-text">Unofficial RedDot blog</a>. He asks many of the questions that customers, implementors and investors should be asking. He also has good inside knowledge, and so I&#8217;m not going to repeat what he&#8217;s already explained so nicely. Read his post. Instead, I&#8217;m going to outline the options as I see them.</p>
<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/NewOpenTextLogo.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1165" title="NewOpenTextLogo" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/NewOpenTextLogo.jpg" alt="NewOpenTextLogo" width="444" height="127" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Option 1: Sophie&#8217;s Choice</strong></p>
<p>This one is easy to explain &#8211; a tragic choice between two unbearable options. Kill either RedDot or Vignette, one bullet for the CMS product (VCM or LiveServer) and one for the Delivery product (Vignette Application Portal or Delivery Server). This is most likely to mean bye-bye RedDot unless, of course, the people at Open Text pay more attention to the <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/08/10/what-has-the-ministry-of-magic-quadrants-got-against-me/">Gartner Magic Quadrant</a> than me, in which case it&#8217;s goodbye Vignette. However, there is no chance at all that VAP will die so I think Vignette is safe. Option 1 isn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
<p><strong>Option 2: The Quick PurpleDot Brundlefly</strong></p>
<p>So, next option. Merge the two products together into some kind of new hybrid product. Now this simply isn&#8217;t going to work. I&#8217;m not going to waste anyone&#8217;s time by listing the numerous reasons why this is insane. Instead, I&#8217;ll let the good children of South Park explain this for me:</p>
<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/An_elephant_makes_love_to_a_pig.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1168" title="An_elephant_makes_love_to_a_pig" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/An_elephant_makes_love_to_a_pig.jpg" alt="An_elephant_makes_love_to_a_pig" width="364" height="276" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Kyle: Well, what about our pot-bellied elephant?<br />
Mephesto: Oh. Well I&#8217;m sorry children, but, pig and elephant DNA just won&#8217;t splice &#8230; Although, maybe I could help you add a few asses to that swine of yours.<br />
Cartman: You can keep your hands off of Fluffy&#8217;s ass!</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8216;Nuff said. I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve ever tried to implement a site on a CMS with four asses. It isn&#8217;t pretty. Trust me.</p>
<p><strong>Option 3: The Long Winded PurpleDot Brundlefly</strong></p>
<p>Okay, so we&#8217;re not killing a product, and we&#8217;re not merging them either. The next option that is being discussed is the creation of a brand new product using the best engineering ideas and lessons from both products. Realistically, however, it&#8217;ll take far too long to build a brand new product from the ground up. In reality this will either end in the euthanasia of a product  or a slower route to market for a PurpleDot Brundlefly. I see this option as a marketing spin on the infeasible Options 1 and 2. Not going to happen.</p>
<p><strong>Option 4: The Alterian Gambit</strong></p>
<p>Here is a viable option. Keep them both, keep supporting them both, and keep both products separate. Re-assure existing customers and implementers that nothing is really changing. This approach would keep existing customers happiest, but might make new sales more difficult. However, I think there are many ways they could differentiate the products, as I explained in <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/05/10/will-vignette-give-open-text-food-poisoning/">this post</a>. They could split by technology (Java/.NET), by industry vertical, or by dramatically reducing Red Dot&#8217;s license fees to compete lower down the food chain.</p>
<p><strong>Option 5: The SKU Jedi Mind Trick</strong></p>
<p>Keep them both and make the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple">sheeple</a> believe they&#8217;re part of the same integrated product suite. It&#8217;s amazing what new product name and a CSS change can give to a marketing manager. So in reality this is similar to Option 4, with a bit of confusion thrown on top. This is a fairly likely outcome.</p>
<p><strong>Option 6: The Maintenance Milking Machine </strong></p>
<p>Now this isn&#8217;t really a separate option, but a given. Open Text would be insane to rock the boat and potentially scare of the maintenance paying existing customers. The MMM could work in conjunction with either Options 5 or 6. The Shareholders will demand it. Expect to see both products being supported for many years to come, although don&#8217;t hold your breath for too much innovation.</p>
<p>While I can&#8217;t predict what&#8217;s going to happen, maybe history can teach us something. In the spirit of ignoring copyright rules, I&#8217;ve attached a screenshot from the <a href="http://www.cmswatch.com/CMS/Report/">CMS Watch CMS Report</a> from 2004.</p>
<div id="attachment_1166" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 517px"><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/CMSWatch2004.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1166" title="CMSWatch2004" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/CMSWatch2004.jpg" alt="Extract from CMS Watch 2004 report. Please don't sue me." width="507" height="315" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Extract from CMS Watch 2004 report. Please don&#39;t sue me.</p></div>
<p>We all know what happened last time. Let&#8217;s see if history repeats itself.</p>
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