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		<title>An Incomplete Directory of Open Standards</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the panel discussion at the recent British Computer Society Open Source event, there was discussion (and confusion) about Open Source versus Open Standards. I was asked "So, can you give us some examples of Open Standards". I rattled off a few, but I thought I'd add a few more here. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>Through this open world I&#8217;m about to ramble,<br />
Through ice and snows, sleet and rain,<br />
I&#8217;m about to ride that mornin&#8217; railroad,<br />
P&#8217;raps I&#8217;ll die on that train.<br />
- MAN OF CONSTANT SORROW</p></blockquote>
<p>During the panel discussion at the recent <a href="http://jonontech.com/2010/01/07/bcs-open-source-presentation/">British Computer Society Open Source event</a>, there was discussion (and confusion) about Open Source versus Open Standards. I was asked &#8220;So, can you give us some examples of Open Standards&#8221;. I rattled off a few, but I thought I&#8217;d add a few more here. There is a lot more to be said on the topic, but a good place to start is to list the standards that I think are important.</p>
<p>If I get the time, I plan to turn this into a nice diagram that is much more easily digestible. If there are important standards that I&#8217;ve forgotten about that anyone interested in web sites should know about, please let me know in the comments. I&#8217;d avoided worrying about file formats (e.g. PNG, MPEG, PDF). And REST isn&#8217;t a standard &#8211; it is an architectural style that was developed in parallel with the HTTP/1.1 protocol. I&#8217;m sure there are many many important ones I&#8217;ve left out though.</p>
<p>This is a long and boring post with a record-breaking number of acronyms. So maybe you should stop reading now.</p>
<h2>The Internet Plumbing</h2>
<p>These standards are the plumbing of the Internet. Like the sewers under a big city, they are impossible to change and will be there forever. They&#8217;re infrastructure. Some people are saying Twitter has already become infrastructure, but I&#8217;m not convinced about that yet. These standards are split into layers &#8211; the link layer is about physical connection to a network and include standards such as Ethernet. The Internet layer routes packets of information across one or more network using the <a title="Internet protocol" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol">Internet protocol (IP)</a>. The Transport Layer is responsible for the reliable delivery of messages, and uses standards such as TCP or UDP. Finally, the Application Layer provides higher level application specific protocols such as DNS, HTTP (and <a title="WebDav" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV">WebDAV</a>) for web servers, FTP, SMTP for mail servers, NTP for time servers, <a title="LDAP" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Directory_Access_Protocol">LDAP</a> for user directories and so on. But I&#8217;m not here to talk about any of these. I want to talk about the standards that sit on top of these, specifically for web pages.</p>
<h2>Making Web Pages</h2>
<div id="attachment_1449" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 391px"><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/w3ctimeline-4500x1796.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1449" title="First 10 Years of the W3C" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/w3ctimeline-4500x1796-300x119.png" alt="" width="381" height="151" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">First 10 Years of the W3C - Click for large version</p></div>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with the standards we know and love that make up web pages. Of course we have <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224">HTML 4</a>, <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xhtml-basic-20080729">XHTML</a> and the eagerly awaited <a title="status is WD" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-20090825/">HTML 5</a>. We make our HTML pretty using <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS1-20080411/">Cascading Style Sheets (CSS)</a> and we interact with the page using the <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-DOM-Level-2-Style-20001113">Document Object Model (DOM)</a>, which has a large number of associated standards. Note AJAX is not a standard, despite what you might hear. The <a title="status is LCWD" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20091119/">XMLHttpRequest</a> DOM API (which can be used to implement AJAX) is currently a last call working draft and may be a W3C standard soon. Another client side standard, <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVG11-20030114/">Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG)</a> never really took off and probably never will.</p>
<p>So we have standards to make interactive web pages that may or may not be semantically rich. But the world would be a better place if these pages can be accessed by as many people as possible. So we have accessibility standards as part of the Web Accessibility Initiative (<a title="WAI" href="http://www.w3.org/WAI/">WAI</a>). These include <a title="status is REC" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/">Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG)</a> for your web page and the imminent <a title="status is WD" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-20091215/">Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA)</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent! Our HTML is neat, we&#8217;ve styled it, and all humans can interact with it. But what about the machines? They don&#8217;t understand our badly structured markup. If we want machines to be able to understand the content, we need to engage with the semantic web standards and <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-concepts-20040210/">Resource Description Framework (RDF)</a>. The UK public sector is keen on <a title="status is WD" href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-rdfa-in-html-20091015/">HTML+RDFa</a> although this is not a W3C standard yet. You can query your RDF data set using <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-rdf-sparql-query-20080115/">SPARQL</a> and define your ontology (formal representation of concepts and relations between them) using the <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/REC-owl2-primer-20091027/">Web Ontology Language (OWL, not WOL)</a>. While we&#8217;re at it, a related and very succesful standard which touches my world is the <a title="Dublin Core Metadata Standard" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Core">Dublin Core Metadata Standard</a>, which is an <a title="ISO standard" href="http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_ics/catalogue_detail_ics.htm?csnumber=52142">ISO standard</a>. I like this <a id="u.9y" title="good introduction to Semantic Web standards" href="http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-manager/?p=2716">good introduction to Semantic Web standards</a> if you want to read more.</p>
<h2>The Biggest Standard of the Naughties</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/">Extensible Markup Language (XML)</a> is a hugely successful standard. If you judge the success of a standard by its adoption (which I do), it was the Hit of the Decade. <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xmlschema-0-20041028/">XML Schema (XSD)</a> has replaced the ill-thought-out DTD standard for defining XML structures. Other child standards include the node selection language <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-xpath20-20070123/">XPath</a> and query language <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-xquery-20070123/">XQuery</a>. <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-xslt-19991116">XSL Transformations (XSLT)</a> is my favourite templating language. <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115/">XML Inclusions (XInclude)</a> joins XML documents together. They&#8217;ve also given us <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/REC-xforms-20091020/">XForms</a> to collect data &#8211; sadly it hasn&#8217;t taken off as I&#8217;d have liked.</p>
<p>Also XML related, the Web Services Standards have given us a wonderful way to make remote services play together. The Holy Trinity behind Web Services are <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-soap12-part0-20070427/">SOAP</a> (previously Simple Object Access Protocol) to define the message formats, <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-wsdl20-primer-20070626">Web Services Description Language (WSDL)</a> to give service descriptions and <a title="Universal Description, Discovery and Integration (UDDI)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDDI">Universal Description, Discovery and Integration (UDDI)</a> to find the services. UDDI is actually an OASIS specification, not W3C, but it fits better here.</p>
<h2>OASIS standards</h2>
<div>All of the standards mentioned so far are open, and unless otherwise stated, are looked after by the <a href="http://www.w3.org/">World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)</a> and the <a title="Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)" href="http://www.ietf.org/">Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)</a>. These guys look after the Web as we know it. However, there are other standards bodies that create open standards that are more application specific, and some bodies that create standards which might not be considered truly open. Below are some of the important ones.</div>
<p><a title="OASIS" href="http://www.oasis-open.org/who/">OASIS</a> (Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards), in their own words, &#8220;drives the development, convergence and adoption of open standards for the global information society&#8221;. The OASIS standards that touch my world include, in no particular order:</p>
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<li><a href="http://xml.coverpages.org/cmis.html">Content Management Interoperability Services (CMIS)</a> &#8211; Okay, so this isn&#8217;t actually a standard yet, but it is well on the way. It will allow for interoperability between Content Repositories</li>
<li><a href="http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/#wsrpv2.0">Web Services for Remote Portlets (WSRP)</a> &#8211; Allows portals to include remote portlets. This is probably going to lose to the newer, simpler portlet/widget ideas.</li>
<li>
<div><a href="http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/#uddiv3.0.2">Universal Description, Discovery and Integration (UDDI)</a> &#8211; mentioned earlier. The third pillar of Web Services</div>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/#samlv2.0">Security Assertion Markup Language (SAML)</a> &#8211; Used for exchanging authentication and authorization data between security domains. I think this will also lose to newer protocols.</li>
<li>
<div><a href="http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/#ditav1.1">Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA)</a> &#8211; A presentation neutral component-oriented XML content standard, which competes with another OASIS standard, <a href="http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/#dbv5.0">DocBook</a>, which I know very little about.</div>
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<li>
<div><a title="eXtensible Resource Descriptor Sequence (XRDS)" href="http://docs.oasis-open.org/xri/2.0/specs/cd02/xri-resolution-V2.0-cd-02.html">eXtensible Resource Descriptor Sequence (XRDS)</a> &#8211; An XML format for discovery of metadata about a resource. Actually part of another standard, but that&#8217;s just details.</div>
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<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/StandardsBodies.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1471" title="StandardsBodies" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/StandardsBodies-300x98.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="98" /></a></p>
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<h2>Authentication and Private Data Portability</h2>
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<div>OASIS tends to focus on fairly large, complex standards which are always at risk from smaller standards which are often easier to implement so have less of a barrier to adoption. The standards that I think will beat SAML include <a title="OpenID" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openid">OpenID</a> which has taken the web by storm recently and <a title="OAuth" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth">OAuth</a>. OpenID (under the <a title="OpenID Foundation" href="http://openid.net/foundation/">OpenID Foundation</a>) is a web single sign-on protocol similar to SAML. OAuth (now under the IETF) allows a site to request private user data from another site. Both OpenID and OAuth above rely of XRDS. While we&#8217;re talking about users and social networks, other important not-quite-standards are listed below. A great article to learn more about these is the &#8220;<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/Overlap">Overlap of identity technologies</a>&#8221; worked example from Google.</div>
<ul>
<li>
<div><a title="OpenSocial" href="http://www.opensocial.org/">OpenSocial</a> (Google) &#8211; for building social applications (widgets) and share data across networks</div>
</li>
<li>
<div><a id="ntxr" title="Friend of a Friend" href="http://www.foaf-project.org/">Friend of a Friend</a> (FOAF) &#8211; defines an open technology for connecting social Web sites and the people in them. It uses RDF and OWL.</div>
</li>
<li>
<div><a id="hmsa" title="Portable Contents" href="http://portablecontacts.net/draft-spec.html">Portable Contents</a> &#8211; for moving your social graph around the internet with you</div>
</li>
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<h2>Content Repository Access, and Java Community Standards</h2>
<div>CMIS is a Content Repository access standard. Another very successful repository standard you all know well is SQL, which has been a standard with both the <a title="American National Standards Institute" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_National_Standards_Institute">American National Standards Institute</a> (ANSI) and the <a title="International Organization for Standardization" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization">International Organization for Standardization</a> (ISO) for over 20 years. File system standards haven&#8217;t seen the same joy, with most major operating systems using their own standard.</div>
<div>Another open content repository standard is the <a id="vv90" title="Java Content Repository" href="../2009/11/26/cmis-jcr-and-osgi-for-idiots/">Java Content Repository</a> (JCR) from the <a id="v-xy" title="Java Community Process" href="../2009/11/26/cmis-jcr-and-osgi-for-idiots/">Java Community Process</a> (JCP) Programme. Now while these standards are Java language focussed, they are still open. JCP standards are defined in Java Specification Requests (JSRs), of which there are other 300. Some important, well adopted JCP standards include:</div>
<ul>
<li>
<div>JSR 170 and 283 for the Java Content Repository</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>JSR 168 and 286 for Java Portlet Specification</div>
</li>
<li>JSR 53, 152 and 245 for various versions of <a title="Java Servlet" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Servlet">Java Servlet</a> and <a title="JavaServer Pages" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaServer_Pages">JavaServer Pages</a> (JSP)</li>
<li>
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<div>JSR 314 for <a title="JavaServer Faces" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaServer_Faces">JavaServer Faces</a> (JSF)</div>
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</li>
<li>
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<div>JSR 255 for <a title="Java Management Extensions" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Management_Extensions">Java Management Extensions</a> (JMX)</div>
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</li>
</ul>
<h2>Syndication</h2>
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<div>For syndication we have <a id="g5d5" title="RSS" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS">RSS</a>, which is looked after by the <a title="RSS Advisory Board" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_Advisory_Board">RSS Advisory Board</a> (the guy that fixes my boiler is on it) and <a id="gafp" title="AtomPub" href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4287.txt">AtomPub</a>, which is an IETF standard. An extension to these, <a id="vuoy" title="PubSubHubbub" href="http://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/">PubSubHubbub</a>, is a Google project which added near-realtime notification to RSS and AtomPub. My boiler guy thinks this <a id="vsym" title="specification has holes" href="http://www.xn--8ws00zhy3a.com/blog/2009/11/pubsubhubbub-security-concerns">specification has holes</a>. For outlines, we have OPML (Outline Processor Markup Language). For example, here is <a href="http://jonontech.com/opml.xml">my blogroll as OPML</a>.</div>
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<h2>Things that start with Open</h2>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d end with some things I like that aren&#8217;t actually standards, but use the word Open in their title.</p>
<ul>
<li><a id="l_:r" title="OpenSearch" href="http://www.opensearch.org/Home">OpenSearch</a> &#8211; A set of formats designed to make sharing search results easier</li>
<li><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/">OpenStreetMap</a> &#8211; Creates and provides free geographic data such as street maps to anyone who wants them. This is more about Open Data than Open Standards, but anyway.</li>
<li><a id="zo9o" title="OpenCalais" href="http://www.opencalais.com/">OpenCalais</a>- A service that semantically parses your content and identifies people, events, places and more. I used the WordPress plugin <a id="oa.:" title="Tagaroo" href="http://tagaroo.opencalais.com/">Tagaroo</a> on this blog for fun. Only basic use is free, though. Probably doesn&#8217;t really belong here. However, below is a screenshot that shows Tagaroo suggesting tags and images for this blog post. The power of semantic analysis.</li>
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<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tagaroo.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1447" title="Tagaroo WordPress Plugin" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tagaroo.jpg" alt="" width="709" height="525" /></a><span class="status action"><strong> </strong></span></p>
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		<title>OMG! Open Text buy Grandpa Vignette</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I gotta admit, this one took me by surprise. Open Text has just announced that they are aquiring Vignette. There is more to come, but here are my initial thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>We grew up together<br />
From the cradle to the grave<br />
We died and were reborn<br />
And then mysteriously saved.<br />
- OH, SISTER</p></blockquote>
<p>I gotta admit, this one took me by surprise. Open Text has just announced that they are <a href="http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2009/06/c8873.html">aquiring Vignette</a>. There were the usual rumours in the air, but I don&#8217;t think many people took it seriously. I know I didn&#8217;t. First RedDot. Then Vizible. Now this. Anyone remember Gauss and Obtree? I&#8217;ve been using Vignette since 1999 and have become very fond of it. Maybe this is the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome">Stockholm Syndrome</a>, but anyway.</p>
<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/opentext.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-618" title="opentext" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/opentext.jpg" alt="opentext" width="905" height="173" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to write much now &#8211; I need time to digest things  &#8211; but there is a lot to think about here. But off the top of my confused head:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Vignette name will probably vanish in the same way that the RedDot name recently did. How about &#8220;More Open Text Web Solutions&#8221;? That&#8217;s catchy.  The end of an era, as I blogged about <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/04/04/when-cms-memes-attack/">here</a>.</li>
<li>I suspect that <a href="http://www.vignette.com/us/Solutions/Web-Content-Management">Vignette Content Management</a> is going to be around for a while. A lot of customers have been through a lot of effort recently to get onto the latest versions. I can&#8217;t see Open Text messing with that baby. So it looks like three Open Text CMS choices for a while &#8211; the original, the ex-RedDot and the ex-VCM.</li>
<li>Vignette have a Collaboration product, and have recently announced their new <a href="http://www.vignette.com/portal/site/us/menuitem.62215d74e262b2ba32189210180141a0/?vgnextoid=7269f2ca34429110VgnVCM1000005610140aRCRD&amp;vgnext-selected-menuitem=191626ff2f7512e8fb3d8010180141a0&amp;gbl-vcmprguid=7269f2ca34429110VgnVCM1000005610140aRCRD">Vignette Community Services</a>. OpenText have a large <a href="http://www.opentext.com/2/global/sol-products/sol-pro-collaboration-community-management.htm">Collaboration and Community Management</a> component. Something is going to happen here.</li>
<li>I think the Portal will stay as it is. Open Text currently have the <a href="http://www.opentext.com/2/global/sol-products/sol-pro-enterprise-portals/pro-ll-portal-integration-kit.htm">Open Text Portal Integration Kit</a>. Expect to see this become tightly ingrated with VAP via the JSR-168 portlets. Hopefully it will replace Dynamic Portal in the longer term. Open Text don&#8217;t have their own portal.</li>
<li>The needs to be some Records Management consolidation I would think. No point have both <a href="http://www.opentext.com/2/global/sol-products/sol-pro-records-management/pro-ll-records-management-rm.htm">Open Text Records Management</a> and <a href="http://www.vignette.com/portal/site/us/menuitem.62215d74e262b2ba32189210180141a0/?vgnextoid=346675060e1eb010VgnVCM1000005610140aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=7c4295338521b010VgnVCM1000005610140aRCRD&amp;vgnextfmt=default&amp;vgnext-selected-menuitem=4b09bdd80b8ff1e8fb3d8010180141a0&amp;gbl-vcmartguid=346675060e1eb010VgnVCM1000005610140aRCRD">Vignette Records Manager</a> is there? I&#8217;m guessing one of these will become dominant, and customers will be (slowly) migrated. This will take many years, though.</li>
<li>Maybe there will be a similar product collision in the Imaging/Workflow/Capture area, and the Business Process Management areas. I don&#8217;t know much about this stuff, so ain&#8217;t going to guess anything.</li>
<li>Open Text have a more more mature DAM offering in <a href="http://www.opentext.com/2/sol-products/sol-pro-digital-asset-mgmt/pro-artesia-dam.htm">Artesia</a>. I wonder if the much heralded, newly launched <a href="http://www.vignette.com/us/Solutions/Rich-Media-and-Video">Vignette Rich Media</a> is going to have a long and healthy life. Maybe some of the fancy front end technology will get used (Vizible is more fancy). I suspect the Vignette&#8217;s DAM days are numbered.</li>
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<p>I really really hope that this is going to be a good thing for Vignette. Maybe it is exactly what they needed. But, on the other hand, maybe it isn&#8217;t. In my experience, these things are never that smooth for the company that gets absorbed. I do worry about the existing Vignette employees. These kinds of deals are never without pain, and I hope that the people that have been sweating blood for VIGN aren&#8217;t badly affected. I also worry about the existing Vignette customers &#8211; I see roadmap changes on the horizon. I&#8217;m sure the customer-centric analysts will have a lot to say here.</p>
<p>And finally, I wonder how much fun Tony Byrne is going to have drawing the <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/09/cms-watch-subway-vendor-map-2009/">2010 Content Technology Vendor Map</a>. The number of big stations is getting smaller every day.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t talk any more now. Got a call with a <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Vignette</span> OpenText client.</p>
<p>[<strong>UPDATE</strong>: It seems not everyone was as surprised as me! Laurence "@piewords" Hart gazed into his Crystal Ball and<a href="http://wordofpie.com/2009/01/22/vignette-is-losing-at-musical-chairs/"> called it</a> in January. And the <a href="http://bigmenoncontent.com/2008/08/26/a-reddot-on-vignette/">Big Men On Content</a> picked it up last August. <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10024888-16.html">Matt Asay</a> even had the numbers right back then. They've got their ears to the ground.]</p>
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		<title>Portals That Walk And Talk Like Ducks</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone knows I've got a thing against all Portal software when it is used for what I consider the wrong kind of site. This is just another example, but caught me after a bad day at the office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>Mr. Frog went a-hoppin&#8217; up over the brook, Uh-huh,<br />
Mr. Frog went a-hoppin&#8217; up over the brook, Uh-huh,<br />
Mr. Frog went a-hoppin&#8217; up over the brook.<br />
A lily-white duck come and swallowed him up, Uh-huh.<br />
- FROGGIE WENT A COURTIN&#8217;</p></blockquote>
<p>Had a look at the <a href="https://www.peoples.com/">People&#8217;s United Bank</a> site that has just been launched and <a href="http://twitter.com/vignettecorp/status/1544781363">recently tweeted</a>. Firstly, well done to everyone involved for getting it live. Always nice to see a new big CMS driven site.  It looks good too &#8211; nice and clean. Hats off to the designers.</p>
<p>But I do have to ask my friends at Vignette &#8211; was it really necessary to use your portal products (Vignette Application Portal and Dynamic Portal Module) for this? I have only looked at the site for 15 minutes, so have probably missed something huge. But I&#8217;m going to assume I haven&#8217;t and soldier on.<br />
<a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/darkportal.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-553" title="Dark Portal" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/darkportal.jpg" alt="Dark Portal" width="377" height="282" /></a></p>
<p>I realise it is a bank, so there are probably a lot more Portal suitable features behind the different logins. But all of those seem to go off-site <em>away</em> from the Portal implementation at the moment. It&#8217;s often the other way round. The post-login functionality is driven by a portal, not the pre-login informational/marketing section.  The site seems to be primarily static content. Maybe the content differs depending on your ZIP code &#8211; not easy to tell.</p>
<p>Portals are meant to aggregate applications, not provide a set of off-site links to them. The <a href="https://pcb.peoples.com/peoples/login.aspx">login </a>goes to a server running ASP.NET. The <a href="https://www.peoples.com/portal/site/peoples/menuitem.cc7154531459a138fc713169085001ca/?vgnextoid=fcacfcca357aa110VgnVCM100000800510acRCRD&amp;vgnextfmt=default">career application</a> is an offsite IFRAME. The <a href="http://web.sa.mapquest.com/peoplesbank/advantage.adp">branch finder</a> goes to MapQuest. The search goes to <a href="http://peoples.mondosearch.com/SearchTemplates/peoples/ResultsPeoples.aspx?QUERY=portal">Mondo</a> with a secure/unsecure warning. Even the search results are displayed on Mondo, but maybe this is for the term highlighting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed on the Vignette site that the Portal product is now classified under <a href="http://www.vignette.com/us/Solutions/Intranet">Intranet </a>, not under <a href="http://www.vignette.com/us/Solutions/Web-Content-Management">Web Content Management</a>. That&#8217;s a step in the right direction. It can make a mighty fine Intranet. But it still seems to get recommended as the delivery mechanism for every site you launch.</p>
<p>Maybe there are no downsides to using the Portal for this site. But if it is so easy to fix the <a href="https://www.peoples.com/portal/site/peoples/menuitem.95de64297d03c70b397ebcc8085001ca/?vgnextoid=1ff3fcca357aa110VgnVCM100000800510acRCRD&amp;vgnextfmt=default">friendly URLs</a> , the <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.peoples.com/">validating markup</a>, and the <a href="http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/">TABLE based layouts</a> , I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing them in the next release of this site. Google really digs that stuff, and banks really dig organic traffic. At the very least, please put the &lt;link&gt; to vgn-ext-templating.css somewhere <em>after </em>the opening&lt;html&gt; tag.</p>
<p>The implementation was probably a fair bit of effort too, I&#8217;m guessing. Did you choose an external spider for the site search because it felt right, or because it is actually quite difficult to implement an internal search on a Portal? Any issues with sessions and bookmarking? Do the editorial team need to use both the VCM and VAP to create new pages, or do they have a nice, single tool that they use to create pages and content? And it is all easy and cheap to maintain?</p>
<p>I guess someone might have played the &#8220;we&#8217;re not using the Portal functionality for Phase 1, but we need a future-proof platform to carry us forward&#8221; card. Or did someone say <em>synergies</em> a lot? Oh for a penny for every non-implemented planned Phase 2 feature I&#8217;ve seen. We all love agile development these days; whatever happened to agile product choices? If the post-login part of this site is live on VAP in the next 12 months, however, I&#8217;ll eat my hat, apologise, and buy everyone lots and lots of beer.</p>
<p>I really like the VCM. And I really like VAP. But this site isn&#8217;t a Portal. Dear Vignette, please don&#8217;t make us use VAP for everything. You do have other delivery mechanisms. Dear other major vendors, stop smirking. Many of you do the same.</p>
<p>Not every site is a Portal. Sometimes a Portal is really a Gate To Hell. Here there be Demons.</p>
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