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		<title>Vendors, Stress Balls and Beers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today was Day 1 at Internet World 2009 a.k.a. #iwexpo for the Twitterrati. I chatted to lots of vendors, performed a vendor selection exercise, and drank a fair bit of sweet sweet beer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>I&#8217;ll go to some bar room<br />
And drink with my friends<br />
- MOONSHINER</p></blockquote>
<p>Today was Day 1 at Internet World 2009 a.k.a. <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iwexpo">#iwexpo</a> for the Twitterrati. I got there nice and early, got myself a coffee and settled in to CMS Watch&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cmswatch.com/Analyst/15-Regli">Theresa Regli </a>talking about &#8220;Findability in a Web 2.0 World&#8221;. It is really difficult for the speakers to pitch these at the correct altitude as the audience is so varied, but I quite enjoyed the talk. My favourite part was when she called most marketing &#8220;crap&#8221;. A nice relaxed, honest presentation.</p>
<p>I spent most of the day chatting to vendors. Got the lowdown from (in alphabetical order) Alterian, CoreMedia, Ektron, EPiServer, EZ Systems, FatWire, FirstSpirit, Gomez, Hybris, Jadu, Kentico, OpenText (nee RedDot), SiteCore, Squiz and Vyre. I enjoyed my chat with <a href="http://twitter.com/IanTruscott">Ian </a>about the crazy CMS shit we all got up to in the late nineties.</p>
<p>I am alway interested to see who has the biggest stands at these events. A few years ago, Tridion were all over Internet World but they aren&#8217;t at here at all any more (maybe the SDL influence?). Vignette and EMC weren&#8217;t there either. Autonomy/Interwoven were there although their collateral isn&#8217;t merged yet. Last year, Vyre had the biggest stand but they&#8217;ve decided to spend their marketing budget elsewhere and went for a normal stand this year. EPiServer seemed to have biggest stand and the most people this year. SiteCore had a big one too. <a href="http://www.peer1hosting.co.uk/">Peer 1</a>, a dedicated hosting company, had a massive stand and some really hot chixors in hotpants who looked nothing at all like network engineers.</p>
<p>There was a stand labelled &#8220;Plone&#8221; which made no sense and smelled a bit like a systems integrator trying to pull a fast one. It was actually manned by a company called Netsight that were trying to hijack the Plone brand. I don&#8217;t like those guys at all. Don&#8217;t give them any money please. <em>[<strong>UPDATE</strong>: I got this very wrong. They did actually get permission to do this and are, by all accounts, good guys. So you can give them money. See the <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/04/28/vendors-stress-balls-and-beers/#comments">comments below</a> or the <a href="http://www.netsight.co.uk/blog/2009/5/1/plone-at-internet-world-expo">Netsight blog</a> for their explanations. Apologies to Netsight, Matt and everyone else. Although I'd still be happier if the booth company name said Netsight. ]</em></p>
<p>One of the cool things about these events are the freebies. I couldn&#8217;t find many stress balls this time. I did pick up one from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentico_CMS">Kentico</a> and another from SiteCore. I&#8217;ve recently defined a new approach to Vendor Selection Exercises, so thought I&#8217;d ask the expert (my 11 month year old son) to perform an one:</p>
<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/photo2.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-593" title="Noah Selection" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/photo2.jpg" alt="Noah Selection" width="337" height="451" /></a></p>
<p>After much thought, he picked SiteCore over Kentico. I&#8217;m pretty convinced he went for the rugby ball shape over the football shape, but it might have been down to cost or the developer API. As soon as he can talk, I&#8217;ll let you all know. Sometimes vendor selections can be rather random.</p>
<p>I watched LBi&#8217;s <a href="http://twitter.com/grayscale100">Dom Collier</a> and Jill Lloyd (and our friends at the British Red Cross) talking to a packed session about a recent LBi project. For the LBi groupies, <a href="http://twitter.com/mislip">Mikey </a>and Mark are talking about British Gas tomorrow at 13:00. One of my personal favourite projects. Get along and have a listen to that one.</p>
<p>The highlight of the event was, for me, the drinks afterwards. Was lucky enough to share quite a few pints with <a href="http://www.cmswatch.com/Analyst/3-Byrne">Tony Byrne</a> from CMS Watch, Lau Andreasen from <a href="http://www.jboye.com/">JBoye</a>, LBi&#8217;s very own Microsoft guru <a href="http://twitter.com/riaz_ahmed_">Riaz</a>, wise man <a href="http://twitter.com/jameshoskins">James Hoskins</a> and some other top secret guests. I can&#8217;t think of many things I enjoy more than a few pints of Guiness and a chat about CMS. Hope we can do it again some time soon. And I hope Tony has a better photo than my crappy iPhone one below.</p>
<p><a href="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/photo3.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-594" title="Drinks" src="http://jonontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/photo3.jpg" alt="Drinks" width="548" height="412" /></a></p>
<p>All in all, a really interesting and enjoyable day! More tomorrow. I love this game.</p>
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		<title>Celebrity CMS Deathmatch &#8211; The Aftermath</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The CMS Vendor Meme has now had 24 responses, including some of the large ECM players. The results are tabulated here with commentary, and make very interesting reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>There&#8217;s a lone soldier on the cross, smoke pourin&#8217; out of a boxcar door,<br />
You didn&#8217;t know it, you didn&#8217;t think it could be done, in the final end he won the wars<br />
After losin&#8217; every battle.<br />
- IDIOT WIND</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Part 1: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/17/celebrity-cms-deathmatch/">The Beginning</a><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color:#810081;"><br />
</span></span>Part 2: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/21/celebrity-cms-deathmatch-part-2/">The Meme Spreads</a><br />
Part 3: The Aftermath</strong></p>
<p>Right, it is time to draw this chapter to a close. <span style="color: #993366;"><strong>If you don&#8217;t know what this is all about, please read Part 1 and Part 2 mentioned above first</strong></span>. There has been a great response, and there is talk that an ECM focused meme will start soon too. This has been reported by <a href="http://www.julianwraith.com/?p=122">Julian Wraith</a>, who also did an excellent job keep track of all the responses. Thanks! Google <span style="color:#000000;"><a href="http://grep.codeconsult.ch/2009/03/18/the-cms-vendor-meme/">Bertrand Delacrétaz&#8217;s Meme ID</a></span> to find everything there is to find: <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=9c56d0fcf93175d70e1c9b9d188167cf">9c56d0fcf93175d70e1c9b9d188167cf</a>.</p>
<p>For the record, the <strong>24</strong> vendors that responded (with links to their responses) are: <a href="http://www.jahia.com/jahia/Jahia/Home/about_us/jahias_news/CHECKLIST">Jahia</a>, <a href="http://dev.ektron.com/blogs.aspx?id=24772">Ektron</a>, <a href="http://blogs.hippo.nl/tjeerd/">Hippo CMS</a> , <a href="http://betterfasterbigger.blogspot.com/2009/03/cms-vendor-meme.html">Magnolia</a>, <a href="http://www.episerver.com/en/News/News/CMS-Meme/">EPiServer</a>, <a href="http://blogs.nuxeo.com/ebarroca/2009/03/cms-vendor-meme-nuxeos-turn.html">Nuxeo</a>, <a href="http://www.gxdeveloperweb.com/Blogs/Martin-van-Mierloo/The-CMS-Vendor-Meme.htm">GX</a>, <a href="http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/midgard_and_the_cms_reality_checklist/">Midgard</a>, <a href="http://www.knowledgetree.com/blog/knowledgetree-cms-vendor-meme">Knowledge Tree</a>, <a href="http://www.infopark.com/cms-vendor-meme">infopark</a>, <a href="http://dev.day.com/microsling/content/blogs/main/cmsvendormeme.html">Day</a>, <a href="http://blogs.alfresco.com/wp/luissala/2009/03/17/the-cms-vendor-meme/">Alfresco</a>, <a href="https://blog.coremedia.com/cm/post/2639496/Reality_checklist_for_CMS_Vendors.html">CoreMedia</a>, <a href="http://dguarnaccia.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/cms-vendor-meme-the-sitecore-response/">Sitecore</a>, <a href="http://www.opentext.com/blogs/ecm_briefs/2009/03/open_text_on_the_cms_vendor_me.html">OpenText</a>, <a href="http://www.persuasivecontent.com/alterian-cms-meme-response">Alterian</a>, <a href="http://www.dotcms.org/blog/detail.dot?id=164626&amp;blogId=142480">dotCMS</a>, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=62817941034&amp;ref=mf">Vignette</a>, <a href="http://interwovenblog.com/2009/03/22/the-cms-vendor-meme/">Autonomy/Interwoven</a> and <a href="http://www.escenic.com/news_events/news/article5741.ece">Escenic</a>. Not yet in the table: <a href="http://ez.no/company/news/reality_check_checklist_for_web_cms_vendors">eZ Systems</a>, <a href="http://www.firstspirit.de/internet/en/landingpages/cmsdeathmatchmeme/cmsvendormeme.html">e-Spirit</a>, <a href="http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/cms-vendor-meme-enano-cms.html">Enano</a>, <a href="http://blog.sensenet.hu/post/2009/04/09/CMS-Vendor-Meme-The-SenseNet-60-response.aspx">Sense/Net</a>.</p>
<p>Below is my summary of the results. Click the image for a larger version. Please note that everything here is extremely subjective. You&#8217;d be insane to use this as part of any vendor selection exercise!</p>
<div id="attachment_293" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 520px"><a href="http://jonontech.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/vendorsummary_v2.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-293" title="Summary of the Scores" src="http://jonontech.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/vendorsummary_v2.jpg" alt="Summary of the Scores" width="510" height="262" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Summary of the Scores</p></div>
<p>Notes on the scoring:</p>
<ul>
<li>Vendors shown with a blue background did not score themselves. So I scored them based on what I think their answers meant.</li>
<li>GX gave themselves a 0 and a 1, where they meant a 1 and a 2. So their score rises from 40 to 42.</li>
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<h3>The Overwhelming Yes Questions</h3>
<p>These questions had an average score of <strong>2.8</strong> and above:</p>
<ul>
<li>Amazingly, everyone thought their <strong>Software Does What It Says </strong>it did. That&#8217;s great news for the CMS buyer. Everyone is honest <img src='http://jonontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Most don&#8217;t even try to justify this, although Ektron justify their reply with the fact that they have &#8220;more WCMS implementations than any other vendor in the marketplace&#8221;. I&#8217;d be interested to see the list/research on which this is based.</li>
<li>They all claim to have a <strong>Free SDK</strong>. I wonder if Kas Thomas had a vendor in mind when he put that question onto the list?</li>
<li>The <strong>No Reboot </strong>topic caused a bit of controversy, with three vendors claiming it isn&#8217;t important. I disagree with this. A reboot doesn&#8217;t cause any downtime in a load balanced environment, but I feel it is architecturally wrong for the CMS to go so close to the Operating System to warrant one.</li>
<li>Alfresco were the only ones to admit that they need their technical presales engineers to help the <strong>Sales Guys</strong>. Maybe the other vendors included these techies as part of the sales team so gave themselves full marks.</li>
<li>Again, Alfresco were the only ones that confessed their <strong>Sample Site</strong> wasn&#8217;t great. I&#8217;ve seen a lot of these sample sites, and some of them are really quite dire. I think a few more vendors should have given themselves a &#8220;Sort Of&#8221; here. But I guess the question did not ask for a <em>Good</em> sample site, so they are technically honest. They all have <strong>a Tutorial</strong>, most of which are good.</li>
<li>Three vendors admitted that they didn&#8217;t have a <strong>Full Installer</strong>. dotCMS lost some points here, but at least it is on their roadmap. I do think that the Hippo were a bit hard on themselves. I prefer a standard EAR/WAR deployment to an install Wizard, especially in a large, clustered environment. A <strong>One Click Update</strong> question would have brought some interesting answers as upgrades are often much hard than installs.</li>
</ul>
<h3>The Differentiator Questions</h3>
<p>These questions had an average score below <strong>2.8</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>About half the vendors struggled on the <strong>No English </strong>challenge. The smaller US based vendors normally do worse here as many of their clients are single language. The European based vendors live and breath multi-language every day.</li>
<li>Interwoven is the only vendor that does not offer a <strong>Download</strong>. Six others offer one with conditions attached.</li>
<li>Most vendors eat their own <strong>Dogfood</strong>, apart from SiteCore, who drink their own pre-release champagne. Quite a few aren&#8217;t on the latest version though. Escenic gave themselves a 1 for this, while many other vendors gave themselves a 2. And I&#8217;m taking bets on when Vignette&#8217;s site is going to be running V7.6. KnowledgeTree gave themselves a very kind 3 seeing as they don&#8217;t do WCM. But their score does prove that most of the questions are noting to do with WCM and could apply to almost any software vendor.</li>
<li>Escenic were the only ones that admitted their <strong>Price List </strong>is able to &#8220;adapt to a large variety of customers&#8221;. I believe that all the major vendors do this, and that the price can vary enormously. Maybe the answers refer to list price<strong> </strong>as opposed to the actual golf-course price, but I think Escenic showed honesty here that some of the others could have done. Vignette did also admit their model is complex. Half claim a 5-year old could understand it. But I hope this five year old can also drink a lot in the pub and negotiate a good discount or he is going to get screwed.</li>
<li>Surprisingly, the question with the lowest average score was the <strong>Raise Issues From Product </strong>one. All vendors have an issue logging system, so this would be extremely simple to implement. It could just be a link from the admin screens to the support screens.</li>
<li>The most controversial question was probably the <strong>All Help Files And Documentation are Part of the Install</strong>. Now I&#8217;m going to disagree with Kas on this and side with some of the vendors. I prefer online documentation to local installation for a number of reasons: It is kept up to date and continuously enhanced, it can include user submitted contributions, it can be powered by an advanced search engine, it can contain offsite links, and I don&#8217;t like having extra items installed on the servers. I do like to have a local of the SDK, but this should be embedded in the IDE and be an optional extra download as part of the SDK. And if people do still work when they are offline, the ability to download all the documentation would be a bonus.</li>
</ul>
<h3>The Jon Vendor Meme Awards 2009</h3>
<p>Any great competition needs an awards ceremony. So, in the spirit in which this whole contest was conducted, I&#8217;m honoured to be able to announce:</p>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>Jon Award For Transparency</strong> goes to <strong>Escenic</strong>. Sure they came stone last, but I trust the guys.</li>
<li>The <strong>Jon Award For Agility Above And Beyond Expectations</strong> goes to <strong>Vignette</strong>. I really didn&#8217;t expect them to respond, yet they were the first ECM player to do so.</li>
<li>The <strong>Jon Award For The Best Product Name</strong> goes to <strong>Hippo CMS</strong>. Of course.</li>
<li>The <strong>Jon Award For Anti-Cheating </strong>goes to <strong>Nuxeo</strong>, who miscounted their score on the low side. I&#8217;ve added a point to their reported score.</li>
</ul>
<p>And thanks once again to Kas Thomas for his &#8220;<a href="http://www.cmswatch.com/Trends/1518-A-reality-checklist-for-vendors">A reality checklist for vendors</a>&#8220;, and Day for starting this party, giving CMS geeks like me something to smile about. It&#8217;s been real.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: 28 March 2009 &#8211; Added KnowledgeTree and Ektron.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: 03 April 2009 &#8211; <a href="http://ez.no/company/news/reality_check_checklist_for_web_cms_vendors">eZ Systems</a> have responded. I&#8217;ll update the chart when I have more time.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: 08 April 2009 &#8211; <a href="http://www.firstspirit.de/internet/en/landingpages/cmsdeathmatchmeme/cmsvendormeme.html">e-Spirit</a> set themselves up for a fall by giving themselves a perfect score. Anyone know enough to see if they&#8217;re being cheeky? Not a vendor I know much about sadly. 45/45 seems a bold claim to make. They didn&#8217;t publish any contact details for question 15. I notice @espirit_news joined Twiter 15 minutes ago. Just in time. Well done, e-Spirit! Thanks for playing.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: 09 April 2009 &#8211; Adding Enano (seeing Julian included them in his list) and Sense/Net.</p>
<div><strong><strong>Part 1: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/17/celebrity-cms-deathmatch/">The Beginning</a><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color:#810081;"><br />
</span></span>Part 2: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/21/celebrity-cms-deathmatch-part-2/">The Meme Spreads</a><br />
Part 3: The Aftermath</strong></strong></div>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Marks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A post from Kas Thomas at CMS Watch has inspired Day to start an intriguing CMS fight. I think everyone is going to wade in. This is Part I of the story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="dylan"><p>&#8220;There must be some way out of here,&#8221; said the joker to the thief,<br />
&#8220;There&#8217;s too much confusion, I can&#8217;t get no relief.<br />
Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth,<br />
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth.&#8221;<br />
- ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER</p></blockquote>
<div><span style="color:#339966;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong><strong>Part 1: The Beginning<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color:#810081;"><br />
</span></span>Part 2: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/21/celebrity-cms-deathmatch-part-2/">The Meme Spreads</a><br />
Part 3: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/25/celebrity-cms-deathmatch-part-3/">The Aftermath</a></strong></strong></span></span></div>
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<div>Now it is really getting interesting. When I first read the &#8220;<a href="http://www.cmswatch.com/Trends/1518-A-reality-checklist-for-vendors">A reality checklist for vendors</a>&#8221; article by Kas Thomas, I didn&#8217;t pay too much attention. Seemed like a nice article about common sense. The article outlines 15 items in a checklist which Kas believes all CMS Vendors should comply with. But it seems to have sparked off something which has a whole load of potential.</div>
<p>CMS Vendor Day has responded to this in the &#8220;<a href="http://dev.day.com/microsling/content/blogs/main/cmsvendormeme.html">CMS Vendor Meme</a>&#8220;, and challenging other vendors to do the same. They &#8220;called out&#8221; the vendors they consider to be their main competitors &#8211; <a href="http://www.opentext.com/blogs/ecm_briefs/index.html">OpenText</a>, <a href="http://blog.coremedia.com/">Coremedia</a>, <a href="http://interwovenblog.com/">Interwoven</a>, <a href="http://www.vignette.com/">Vignette</a>, <a href="http://www.fatwire.com/cs/Satellite/Page/Main/Ideas">Fatwire</a>, <a href="http://blogs.nuxeo.com/">Nuxeo</a>, <a href="http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/news.html">Magnolia</a> and <a href="http://www.tridion.com/">Tridion</a>. I won&#8217;t repeat the rules of the challenge, which are outlined on all of the vendor sites linked to below. But the general idea is that the vendor rates their own product against the 15 categories, giving themselves a total score out of 45.</p>
<p>This feels like it is done in a very different spirit to the recent <a href="http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/sxsw-web-content-management-system-showdown-update-2-004124.php">CMS Showdown at South by Southwest</a>. The SXSW event involved three Open Source Vendors (Drupal, Joomla!, WordPress) competing in a good humoured manner, with the general feeling being that all three entries, and Open Source CMS in general, were the winners. The Day Challenge feels more like a declaration of war.</p>
<p>I think I really like this. According to the Daily Show tonight (the UK is a day behind the US), &#8220;angry popularism is all the rage&#8221;. I think that the community should put pressure onto the other vendors to respond to the checklist, and let the <a href="http://ebooks.ebookmall.com/ebook/234923-ebook.htm">Herd </a>decide how honest the answers are. Any vendor that elects not to rise to the challenge should be given a mental black mark. The response from Day is shown below. Very cheeky giving themselves a 3 star rating for Reality and justifying it with a smiley face only.</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 426px"><img title="Day's Self Evaluation" src="http://dev.day.com/microsling/content/blogs/main/cmsvendormeme/docroot/score.png" alt="" width="416" height="254" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Day&#39;s Self Evaluation</p></div>
<p>I&#8217;m not for a second saying that I agree with Day&#8217;s self evaluation, but that isn&#8217;t the point. It&#8217;s quite brave of them to put their thoughts out there. It didn&#8217;t take Open Source Vendor <a href="http://betterfasterbigger.blogspot.com/2009/03/cms-vendor-meme.html">Magnolia </a>long to trump the 40/45 from Day with 42/45.</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 345px"><img title="Magnolia Responds" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_W30bQac4R1s/Sb_ZSqVBIpI/AAAAAAAADmo/RsfUOBVG_M8/s400/vendor+challenge+score.jpg" alt="Magnolia Responds" width="335" height="308" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Magnolia Responds</p></div>
<p>Magnolia also tagged <a href="http://blogs.alfresco.com/wp/luissala/2009/03/17/the-cms-vendor-meme/">Alfresco</a> (and many other open source vendors), who responded extremely quickly. They decided (wisely) that the Magnolia score was verging on the incredible, so toned it down a notch giving themselves an average 41/45. I like their honesty on the Help &amp; Docs front. [ <strong>UPDATE</strong>: They have just lowered their score to 40. ]</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 349px"><img title="Alfresco's Response" src="http://s3.alfrescodemo.com/luis-blog/CMSVendorMeme.png" alt="" width="339" height="306" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Alfresco&#39;s Response</p></div>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that this thread has a lot of life in it left, and hopefully more vendors will join in and someone will tabulate the results. And the crowds will tear into any responses they feel are not as true as they could be. Maybe the vendors could go a step further and put some votes or surveys on their sites to see if the users believe their answers. I am really hoping on of the big 3 (OpenText, Interwoven or Vignette) respond to this. I think this kind of honesty (if it is honesty) is more difficult for them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to leave it at that for now. But I am wishing that I hadn&#8217;t stuck with my Bob Dylan song lyrics theme for post entries, and could use something like Guns and Roses&#8217; <a href="http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/guns_n_roses/get_in_the_ring-lyrics-28083.html">Get In The Ring</a>.</p>
<p>Tagging with Meme ID: <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=9c56d0fcf93175d70e1c9b9d188167cf">9c56d0fcf93175d70e1c9b9d188167cf</a></p>
<div><span style="color:#339966;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong><strong>Part 1: The Beginning<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color:#810081;"><br />
</span></span>Part 2: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/21/celebrity-cms-deathmatch-part-2/">The Meme Spreads</a><br />
Part 3: <a href="http://jonontech.com/2009/03/25/celebrity-cms-deathmatch-part-3/">The Aftermath</a></strong></strong></span></span></div>
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